Jack Thompson is a douche bag
He's spent a career building bank on back woods kind of bible thumping and book burning logic. In 1989 he was responsible for the first decency fines ever levied by the Federal Communications Commission-- he led the 2 Live Crew federal obscenity trial, which resulted in the first verdict in United States history to find a sound recording to be obscene. Granted it was in Dade County, Florida, but still. And along with his buddy Charlton Heston (of NRA fame), Thompson persuaded Time Warner to pull "Cop Killer" from Ice T's 1992 Bodycount album.
So I'm writing this op/ed piece for http://www.gamershell.com/ about videogames and violence, because Thompson renewed his crusade last week by suing Sony, Take Two (publisher of Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto Vice City), Gamestop and Walmart for $300 million. He's saying they all played a roll in training Devin Thompson to go on a carjacking kill spree in June of 2003. Devin Thomposon is accused of killing 3 cops.
Jack Thompson, the douchebag right-wing attorney, has a Web site where he urges people to contact him about violent video games. So I emailed him to try and get his side for the story I was writing. Here's the exchange:
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: jackpeace@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:11 PM
Subject: interview questions
Jack, I'm working on an article about video game violence. I've read alot about your crusades against video games and the Devin Thompson trial and wanted to get you to clarify your position for me. With Thompson, do you believe that he would not have committed these murders had he not played these games? Is there a law in Alabamma that forbids retailers from selling M-rated games to minors? Do you have as much of a problem with less realistic violence, like with games from the 1980s? What about Dungeons and Dragons, which was demonized in the 80s and blamed for several youth murders and suicides? What about violent sports game simulations; hockey, football, boxing, wrestling? How much consideration do you give to the idea that the responsibility for shielding kids from violence should lie with the parents instead of game developers or retailers? I need to get this story in over the next few days, so please email me back soon. Feel free to call me at 201-239-0449 if you need more details. Thanks,Shaun McCormack
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
kiss the game industry good-bye
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: Jack Thompson
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
do you care to answer any of my questions?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
nope
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: Jack Thompson
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
why do you have a web site urging people to contact you if you don't want to talk about this stuff?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: interview questions
read again whom I want to have contact me. have the games so disabled your frontal lobes that you can't understand the site?
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: Jack Thompson
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
"This site's purpose is to give you the means to contact Miami attorney Jack Thompson if you know of someone harmed as a result of violent entertainment, including violent video games." I'm writing about Devin Thompson and the three officers he allegedly killed. In your opinion, don't these people fall under the umbrella of "someone harmed as a result of violent entertainment"? Why are you resorting to personal attacks?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:36 PM
it says if you are harmed. bug off
So I'm writing this op/ed piece for http://www.gamershell.com/ about videogames and violence, because Thompson renewed his crusade last week by suing Sony, Take Two (publisher of Grand Theft Auto III and Grand Theft Auto Vice City), Gamestop and Walmart for $300 million. He's saying they all played a roll in training Devin Thompson to go on a carjacking kill spree in June of 2003. Devin Thomposon is accused of killing 3 cops.
Jack Thompson, the douchebag right-wing attorney, has a Web site where he urges people to contact him about violent video games. So I emailed him to try and get his side for the story I was writing. Here's the exchange:
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: jackpeace@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 6:11 PM
Subject: interview questions
Jack, I'm working on an article about video game violence. I've read alot about your crusades against video games and the Devin Thompson trial and wanted to get you to clarify your position for me. With Thompson, do you believe that he would not have committed these murders had he not played these games? Is there a law in Alabamma that forbids retailers from selling M-rated games to minors? Do you have as much of a problem with less realistic violence, like with games from the 1980s? What about Dungeons and Dragons, which was demonized in the 80s and blamed for several youth murders and suicides? What about violent sports game simulations; hockey, football, boxing, wrestling? How much consideration do you give to the idea that the responsibility for shielding kids from violence should lie with the parents instead of game developers or retailers? I need to get this story in over the next few days, so please email me back soon. Feel free to call me at 201-239-0449 if you need more details. Thanks,Shaun McCormack
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
kiss the game industry good-bye
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: Jack Thompson
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
do you care to answer any of my questions?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
nope
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: Jack Thompson
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
why do you have a web site urging people to contact you if you don't want to talk about this stuff?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:14 AM
Subject: Re: interview questions
read again whom I want to have contact me. have the games so disabled your frontal lobes that you can't understand the site?
----- Original Message -----
From: shaunmccormack
To: Jack Thompson
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: interview questions
"This site's purpose is to give you the means to contact Miami attorney Jack Thompson if you know of someone harmed as a result of violent entertainment, including violent video games." I'm writing about Devin Thompson and the three officers he allegedly killed. In your opinion, don't these people fall under the umbrella of "someone harmed as a result of violent entertainment"? Why are you resorting to personal attacks?
----- Original Message -----
From: Jack Thompson
To: shaunmccormack
Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 4:36 PM
it says if you are harmed. bug off
195 Comments:
Wow! I thought there were no ignorant, cynical, self-righteous people left in the world, but I stand corrected.
MAN, that was funny. From what I'd read about Jack Thompson I'd expected an educated smooth-talker who could spin words into anything he wanted and make his points so succintly that he could even convince a judge. Well, obviously I was wrong! How can he read with his head that far up his ass?
I wonder how he talks to his clients.
I have "corresponded" with "Mr." Thompson as well. He suffers from some sort of communication problem, probably tourette syndrome. It is impossible to have any sort of conversation with the idiot.
Anyway, since he only wants to correspond with potential clients (people who have been "harmed" by video game violence), let's give him plenty to correspond with. I think I just got harmed. This idiot kid called me a bitch on XBox Live playing Halo 2. I've been crying ever since. I want to SUEEEEEEEEEEE!
Great Gosh A'Mighty (to quote that early perturber of precious AmeriYouth®, Little Richard Penniman)...Mr Thompson seems perfectly ripe for a long-drawn-out, come-hither pranking.
I could only hope that bunches of people take up the pursuit, so that he spends at least some of his $500/hour time chasing ghost kittens down the sewer drains of finger-pointing foolery, and in so doing, becomes leery and so full of second-guessing about the legitimacy of the emails he receives that it twists that giant festering, hair-growing pimple right off his shoulders.
So, c'mon...who wants to join me in polishing up the fictional-character creating muscles and pranking this dork?
Yer ol' pal Phos plans to resurface in Jack Thompson's email inbox, in the guise of a middle-America, 700 Club-watching dimwit of a housewife, whose slobbering IdioTeens can't tell the difference between SimCity and Las Vegas NV.
Video games play a "role" as in part in a play, not a "roll" as in a 2d20 or a kaiser with sesame.
I don't hold the view that violent video games necessarily lead to violent actions, but I do support that violent games should not be available to children much in the same way porn and violent movies are - it just makes sense that if you're going to limit one form, you should limit this form as well.
However, what Shaun has asked are legitimate questions that need to be answered.
It's rubbish that this "crusader" doesn't answer these types of questions - not even to CBS!
He skirts around them better than Bush about weapons in Iraq.
How is this guy going to cope in court?
If violent video games are correlated with violent crimes, then after 30 years why am I not yet a serial killer?
Amazing how this guy says we are all so violent and then is willing to show his contact information so every videogamer can find him. If we were all so bloodthirsty and violent he would be dead thirty times over. And then someone would blow up his casket.
Amazing how this guy says we are all so violent and then is willing to show his contact information so every videogamer can find him. If we were all so bloodthirsty and violent he would be dead thirty times over. And then someone would blow up his casket.
poop
JACK THOMPSON IS A DOCHEBAG
Jack-ass.
SCREW HIM SCREW HIM!
hey all.
i'll agree that he's a jackass. he tried to sue the site that i am a member in (i don't own it but i wish i did) for a topic on our forums that basically stated how much of a dumbass he is. he tried to sue for conspiracy on the grounds of that one topic. absolute dumbass he is
I fully support you, Jack.
So, do you think he'd even give a damn about any of this if it didn't make him filthy rich?
Heres a one up for you all. Since he continually insults everyone who tries to contact him, what if we were to sue him for mental stress/anxiety caused by such harsh comments? I mean hopefully you all saved his emails and we could make a group claim with proff of the negative and harsh words he used against us. perhaps it caused us to have a "complex" of some sorta because he said we were all metally retarted. Just a thought...but perhaps a way to silence him all the same :)
I'd love to silence this man once and for all. Now he's trying to pick a fight with the creators of The Sims 2. Come on now, The Sims 2?!
Um... I'm pretty sure Jack Thompson's name should should be spelled with some accent marks in it , because I recently became aware that his name is supposed to be pronounced "Jack Ass."
If he is going to "Help" the world by taking down the entire 6 billion dollar video game industry he might just suceed in putting many people out of work. Someone please point this out to him. Also, Hes to old to know how a kid can be effected by games. And, if he did play GTA he played it for 5 mins. and called it a day.
Jack Thompson must be gone
That guy's a total fool. I can't believe he's wants to get The Sims 2 banned. Gamers should rise up.
Jack Thompson: "Oh no an angry mob! And they're armed with Action Replays and copies of GTA: San Andreas! But I'm to young to learn about sex!"
i hope a crazed GTA fan knocks on his door
"There are only two things that are infinite, the Universe and human stupidity, i'm not so sure about the Universe"
That dumbass is a prime example of human stupidity.
Want some reasons why?
1: why doesn't he answer any questions? if he is so morally justified in his cause, perhaps he could tell us why he thinks video games breed bloodthirsty serial killers?
2: Attempting to whack a $6
billion industry is sure to have some adverse effects e.g. thousands of people out of work, the bloodthirsty mob waiting outside his door etc.
3: He is definately in it for the money
I'm 14yrs old, i play violent video games, i've never have the urge to grab my mouse and whack my brother and other family members with it.
Just because a few whacked out people out of BILLIONS of people on our entire planet killed a few people, doesn't mean that EVERYONE who plays video games is a serial killer.
Ffs check into a mental clinic Jack Thompson.
I feel like kicking him in the nuts so he cannot procreate and make little versions of himself
He's an idiot. Simple as that. He can't take down a $6 billion dollar ind.
He's an idiot. Simple as that. He can't take down a $6 billion dollar ind.
what an ass
jack sure is a bitch.... i mean seriously, he completely IGNORES gamers looking to him with questions and once in awhile, sry, ALWAYS rudely insults them like the retarded little demon he is!
Unfortunately, with freedom of speach comes people who will use their freedom of speach to try and disable it.
Jack Thompson is a very disturbed individual who should seek professional help. Instead, he uses his position to attempt to bring down the first amendment and cost industries millions of dollars each year.
I have no doubt in my mind that someone who is equally as disturbed who is an extremist for freedom of speach will one day shoot him dead. And I for one will not be shedding a tear.
u should send this to some1 with authority.. like... the white house! =P
His email address is at Comcast. Maybe his emails could be forwarded to Comcast's abuse department.
Gah, this guy is arrogant.
I mean, sure, some murders could've been because of video games, but really, going after the Sims 2?
Next thing you know, he'll go after Legend of Zelda for being able to cut stuff with a sword, and Super Mario Bros. for being able to use fire(fireballs) for attacking.
Anti-videogame activists like him need to look at both sides, instead of just GTA:SA and other violent games.
Also, he needs to answer gamers, instead of thinking we are dumb.
ok, I'm done ranting.
Just stumbled across this page and from what i've read/heard this guy...he's really messed up doesn't he realize that there are things like 10 times worse then this? Does he even hear the way he just blows everyone off? and now that he's attacking EA because of the sims i mean what the fuck is wrong with this guy? i bet Will Wright is just sitting back thinking "what the hell.." this guy must've been dropped down a flight of stairs as a baby.
Thompson is quoted in a recent news article as saying, "Sims kids can also be nudified, 'much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse.'"
This man is PARANOID. For one thing, I've been a rabid Sims-fan and content-creator for almost five years (I'm in my mid-40's), and I have *never* seen a child-skin modified, by anyone, to be "anatomical."
Since the only interactions of affection between adults and children are the "family kiss" (available to family members only) and "friendly hug," just what does he mean by pedophiles "rehearsing for their abuse"?
This guy is SICK and TWISTED, and is seeing filth everywhere, where none exists. He's obviously been exposing himself to too many video games. :op
this guy must be a pretty bad lawyer, because he's just throwing law suits around like mad expecting to win them.
seems like people are going to want to kill this idiot whether they are exposed to violence or not.
Apparently he's been receiving death threats. Here's a reply from my last attempt to contact him...
My message:
"To: jackpeace@comcast.net
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 12:42 PM
Subject: Campaign Against Violent Video Games
> Hello! I was hoping that you could englighten me on this campaign of
yours.
> Yes, I AM a gamer and I'm hoping that fact won't cause you to
discontinue
> reading my letter, but that you will hear me out and at least respond to
me
> in a dignified manner. I'm looking to have an intelligent discussion with
> you about your campaign if you would allow me the honor. But before we
get
> into that, I'd like you to answer a few questions for me if you will.
>
> 1). Why exactly did you start this campaign?
>
> 2). How are companies to blame for what kids get their hands on? Sure,
the
> developers decide what goes into the game, but they don't decide what
homes
> it goes into. If the children are too young to buy it, then the parents
> have to, right?
>
> 3). In recent news it seems that you're tackling the Sims 2 developers
> (Electronic Arts) because the company hasn't done anything to prevent the
> nude code. Do you know how annoying it would be to release a new patch
> every time a new mod came out? Its just pointless, in my honest opinion.
> So the question I have for you is this - why bother with the Sims 2?
>
> I look forward to your reply.
>
> God bless,
>
> Jem"
I guess he used auto-reply or something for his response:
"John B. Thompson, Attorney at Law
1172 South Dixie Hwy., Suite 111
Coral Gables, Florida 33146
305-666-4366
jackpeace@comcast.net
July 23, 2005
The Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton
United States Senate
Washington, D.C. Via e-mail
The Honorable Joseph Lieberman
United States Senate
Washington, D.C. Via e-mail
Dear Senator Clinton and Senator Lieberman:
I have had a number of video gamers threaten to kill me in the last few days
in the aftermath of the success against Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. This
is noteworthy in a number of regards:
1. The people threatening to kill me so are doing so in the name of the
First Amendment and "freedom of expression"-not mine, of course, just
theirs. Don't you love it?
2. The use of death threats in retaliation for my participation in the
public square serves to prove, rather convincingly, that the violent video
games are having the attitudinal effect that psychologists such as Dr. David
Walsh and others who have testified before Congress say they have.
3. None of the "video game media" will report that the gamers are
threatening to kill me, although I have asked them to report this
phenomenon, as it reveals the validity of the above two points.
I would appreciate any help your respective offices could give me in
persuading the FBI to act in response to these threats. I don't think
anyone should have to put up with such dangerous nonsense.
Regards, Jack Thompson"
His number two complaint is rather sad, is it not?
The above letter from Jackass Thompson demonstrates his lack of brain cells
His lawsuits will probably fail due to his "mental instability"
I for one will LOL when that happens
Here's a link denouncing his BS
http://gr.bolt.com/articles/violence/violence.htm
Man, this guy needs to get a life!
What a fucking bitch, he doesn't even answer your questions.
Don't mind him fellows, my son has always been this stupid his entire life. One day he was sleeping and fell from bed, he hurt his head and what he's doing now he has been doing since he was a little kid--Always arguing something stupid, always trying to find a way to get some money.
Once again, try to ignore him, the last time I checked with the doctor he was mentally retarded, the doctor said he had severe brain damage and was considered a RETARD.
THE END.
Now me. I think this Jack, is no other than a Jackass. I've been playing--or been in contact with--video games since I was 3 years old. I've played violent games and even some games with the AO rating, I also have played GTA.
Now, I'm no killer, not a threat to the nation in any way, I've never been in a gang, don't drink, don't smoke, don't have problems. I'm going to college, have an excellent social life and i'm very very focused in earning my degree in computer networks.........my question is.....how can this moron explain this? Well, if he were to be honest, he would say "I need the money" He's a loser, that's all there is to it.
We need to stop this dude.
There are petitions at
http://www.StopJackThompson.com
Wow the hitler of this generation !
I know everyone in here has a bone to pick with Jack Thompson, and even though I don't play GTA, I think this guy's a total liar who's taking advantage of the situation with GTA to achieve his own ends. I sent him a series of emails, which I think you guys might enjoy...
I wrote:
I found a link to your site, www.stopkill.com, through an online forum. I looked over it, and although I think that there is some genuine concern over the effect of violent media on kids, many of your statements on that site were made in ignorance. What I plan to do in this email is to help you gain a better understanding of video games, and to show you that while your intentions are good, your current course of action is a mistake. I'm going to present my arguments calmly and logically, and you're welcome to write a rebuttal if you wish. First off, let me tell you a little about myself. I'm 14, and I've been playing video games avidly since I was 8. I'm pretty knowledgeable about the subject of video games as a whole, and I've played my fair share of Halo 2 and other shooters, including the Ghost Recon series, which is regarded as one of the most realistic FPSs (first-person shooters, in case you aren't familiar with the terminology). I also enjoy strategy games, in which the death toll is often far higher than what you'd encounter in a FPS. I'm an archer, a martial artist (Tae Kwon Do), and I was taught how to operate a gun by my grandfather, who's an experienced hunter. And, oddly enough, I've never felt the urge to kill, or even seriously injure, anyone. I imagine that killing in self-defence would be extremely difficult for me, despite my alleged desensitization. Now I'd like to dismiss a misonception (I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and not assuming that you're twisting the truth) you have about games like Halo, which are called FPSs. These are not "sniper games." They are games presented in first person, in which you shoot enemies, manage ammunition, and explore levels. You may fail to see the distinction between "sniper" and "first person" based on that description alone, but if you ever take the time to play any of these games, you'll understand that there is no comparison between playing a FPS and operating a rifle. Which brings me to my next point- games can't accurately "train" you to commit violent acts, despite your claims. First off, games are innacurate by their very nature, and they give you less practical knowledge on operating firearms than watching a few hours of History Channel would. Secondly, I'm going to walk you through a typical scenario of me playing Halo 2, which is probably the best FPS available right now:(1) I rotate the right control stick slightly, then hold down the right trigger. There is no violent intent towards my enemy, wether it's an AI-controlled bot or a human opponent I'm facing online- it's a simple challenge in the case of the former and a friendly competition in the case of the latter.(2) On screen, a series of polygons which emulate bullet trails appear. Those polygons collide with the polygons rendered to represent my enemy, and those same polygons then emulate my opponent dying.The important distinction here is that there is no gun, no bullets, and no enemy. There is a rotation of the control stick and a pull of the controller's trigger, resulting in a change of the onscreen display. Anyone who can't see the difference between this and the act of firing a gun at a human being is clearly unfit to be playing these games and, frankly, is an idiot. Which, once again, leads me to the next point I'm going to make. No one in their right mind would ever do the things that you blame on video games. A quick glance at such actions shows that there are far bigger, far more serious causes than violent media behind them. Now, you may wonder, "Why would someone kill a person in a video game if they think it's wrong to do in real life?" Well, the truth is, no one gets hurt when you kill a video game character. There are corporeal consequences to commiting acts of violence on real living things, but the difference is that real living things are just that, real. Well, that's my case against your Anti-Violent Games crusade. I support efforts to get parents more informed about the type of games their kids are playing, but it doesn't take some kind of genius to look at the back of the box of the game your kid wants to buy. If that doesn't tell you enough, there are many popular, respected websites that can give parents reliable information on the content of games. There is no evil conspiracy to turn America's youth into killers going on here- developers are people too. It should be noted that any federal interference with the video game industry would go down in my book as a violation of freedom of speech, which is something I dissaprove of under all circumstances. PS: On the topic of the 'Hot Coffee' mod for GTA: San Andreas, I get the feeling that you don't know what a mod is. Mods are code written by third parties, which adds to or modifies the game code, thereby adding or changing gameplay features. Also, you should keep in mind that this game is rated Mature(17+), and it's clearly displayed on the box that GTA contains sexual content, so any parent who walks in on their kid playing Hot Coffee shouldn't be at all shocked, in my humble opinion.
Jack Thompson wrote:
Of course they can train you to kill. The games suppress the inhibition to kill, which is why the military uses them for that purpose. Thanks for writing.
I wrote:
That's a half-truth. The games used by the military are not the same as the games available to the public, and they're far more akin to simulators than to entertainment systems. There is only one game that I know of which was used by the military and is now available to the public, Full Spectrum Warrior, and the civilian version was modified for faster gameplay and improved graphics. Things such as making the grenades go off quicker, for example, to give it more pick-up-and-play, entertainment value. Even then, anyone can tell you that killing in a game is not at all comparable to killing in reality, because killing in a game is, in fact, not actually killing.Flight simulators aren't used to suppress the inhibition to fly, they're used to give the pilot-in-training technical skills needed to operate a plane. The military uses video games in the same way.
Jack Thompson wrote:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/15/news_6129301.html
I wrote:
Well, I'll admit defeat on Hot Coffee issue, but my point about violence still stands. I'd hardly call that article an effective rebuttal to my statements. And just for the sake of debate, let's hypothetically say your theory is true, and violent games do indeed reduce the inhibition to kill. Does that neccessarily mean that a gamer would have any more desire to kill? It would simply remove a roadblock for someone who already has violent urges and tendencies, caused by other, more serious factors, would it not? A rational, peaceable person who's inhibition to kill was reduced still would lack the violent urge to even contemplate murder.
Jack Thompson wrote:
In the UK an M game can't be sold to a minor, which is the only restriction I seek here. Smarten up. Your ignorance is showing.
I wrote:
Oh, really? Seems to me that you're attempting to draw negative attention to a major game company, spread false information that suggests that violent media creates killers, and continually changing the subject during this discussion. I'd like to bring your attention to the replies you allegedly sent to a few other gamers who have emailed you:
"I am not interested in 'gamer's thoughts,' as that constitutes the latest oxymoron." "Screw off" These are people who I have never known to lie, especially on matters of politics. Perhaps you're being so curteous to me because you don't want Mommy and Daddy upset? Don't worry about that, Mr. Thompson, because I like to fight my own battles. You're spreading ignorance, taking advantage of others' misfortunes, attempting to destroy a well-established industry, and using technicalities to evade my arguments, which you seem to be incapable of refuting. Your two-faced, ambulance-chasing nature is showing. If you want to convince me otherwise, respond to my arguments instead of changing the subject. I'm not as naive as you think.
Jack Thompson wrote:
check into the nearest mental health facility
I wrote:
Mental institution? Whatever for? Did I hit a soft spot with that last email? That reply had a clear tone of finality to it, but you haven't gotten rid of me yet. Personally, I enjoy verbally destroying your "beliefs" and watching your petty attempts to shut out the truth. So, tell me... what exactly are your motives for professing these beliefs that you make no effort to defend? Really, I'm curious. I've never understood how people like you find it so easy, so satisfying, to uphold beliefs that aren't your own. That clearly aren't your own. If you want to insult me, find something witty next time. Being called insane isn't very deragatory, nor is it very clever. PS: I was going to include a joke pertaining to me allegedly having no inhibition to kill, but as you are a lawyer I opted against anything that could be considered a threat in even the most liberal terms.
Jack Thompson wrote:
Not interested.
I wrote:
Well, I've had fun antagonizing you. Also, I think I should tell you that I've posted this entire conversation on a public forum. You're unlikely to garner any support from my little corner of the web.
Jack Thompson wrote:
Post that, junior.
I wrote:
With pleasure. I know some people who'd get a real kick out of it.
Jack Thompson wrote:
I bet you do. While you gamers are all autostimulating yourselves with hopefulness that all of this is going nowhere, I'm in the current Reader's Digest and working with US Senators. You all ought to be concerned.
I wrote:
Reader's Digest? How ironic that they once had an article poking fun at frivolous lawyers. Funny ol' world, ain't it? Well, you never know what crazy things politicians will do, but if people critically examine your viewpoints as I have, then I doubt that you'll get far. A great deal of disdain towards you is growing in the gaming community, and there are a LOT of voting-age gamers in this country. Who are some of the senators you're currently talking to? I think I'd like to contact them as well.
I haven't gotten a reply to that last one yet :wink:Sorry to make you guys read that huge block of type, but if you hate Jack Thompson, it'll be worth the effort. If you know other people who are against him, or people who support him, link them to this site. JACK THOMPSON WAS PWNED BY A 14-YEAR-OLD.
Sry for all this bull im doing i eat balls
Mr.Jack ROCKS!
No way thats Jack Thompson,hes dumber then that.
have had a number of video gamers threaten to kill me in the last few days
in the aftermath of the success against Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. This
is noteworthy in a number of regards:
1. The people threatening to kill me so are doing so in the name of the
First Amendment and "freedom of expression"-not mine, of course, just
theirs. Don't you love it?
2. The use of death threats in retaliation for my participation in the
public square serves to prove, rather convincingly, that the violent video
games are having the attitudinal effect that psychologists such as Dr. David
Walsh and others who have testified before Congress say they have.
3. None of the "video game media" will report that the gamers are
threatening to kill me, although I have asked them to report this
phenomenon, as it reveals the validity of the above two points.
I would appreciate any help your respective offices could give me in
persuading the FBI to act in response to these threats. I don't think
anyone should have to put up with such dangerous nonsense.
LIES!
If you guys like Jack Thompson, then you're gonna love this:
http://www.mavav.org/
Liberman, Cilton, Thompson....Why Do They Hate Games, amnd why Do They Dis Gamers? These fags...I AM GOING TO DESTORY!!!
Kefka said...
Liberman, Cilton, Thompson....Why Do They Hate Games, amnd why Do They Dis Gamers? These fags...I AM GOING TO DESTORY!!!
Maybe thats the idiocy he's talking about >_>
lol at the bottom of the page it has ads by google promoting the sale of it suck irony...
lol at the bottom of the page it has ads by google promoting the sale of GTA such irony...
if i had liced in his country, i would have killed him... really i dont think anyone would notice he is gone and be sad about it... god meke him die soon, pls ...
http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=94118571&start=94119777
"Fun phone call, I had said nothing negative to him just said I had some questions. "Don't call again or you'll regret it.""
OMG! Lets sue him for threating you!
Now hes screwed! BWHAHA
While I dislike Grand Theft Auto,I dislike Jack Thompson a whole lot more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)
That mavav.org thingy says that online clans are racist, sexist, and essentially online hate groups. Just because the Ku Klux Klan had the word "clan" in it doesn't mean that all instances where the word "clan" is used makes it pure evil. Clans are just a couple of friends getting together and beating the shit out of other clans, not saying "i hate blacks" or "i hate women". Those Mothers Against Videogame Addiction and Violence need to get a goddam life.
You think that's disturbing? He's got that little speel prepared.
Check out what he said to a friend of mine.
http://www.livejournal.com/~jaimas/130214.html
Except MAVAV was proven to be a hoax ages ago.
Jack Thompson, anus plunderer, etc. etc., I really don't have to say much more.
Like...wow. Such hatred.
But I can say that he is deserving of it.
I like the way he never answers a question, makes him look dumb.
Jack thompson is a joke. I would love to see him take EA to court for the sims, EA would crush him.
Dear Jack.
I am very well aware that most of the emails sent to you is either
ignored or responded to with the same kind of language a irritated
6-year old would use.
I am a 21-year old boy from Norway, and have played games most of my
life, starting with the original Mario on an old Nintendo console.
This may qualify me as a potential serial killer in your eyes, but I
choose to believe that if you want to judge me in any way, it is more
important to look at some other factors, such as social upbringing
(yes I have both my parents and I've had a "normal" life in every
way), education (currently studying chemistry at the University of
Oslo), and stuff like that...
However, I wanted to address some of the things found on the following pages:
- http://www.stopkill.com/
- http://aelon.net/2005/07/jack-thompson-straw-man/
- http://keepyourkillingclean.blogspot.com/2005/02/jack-thompson-is-douche-bag.html
- http://www.gamespot.com/news/2005/07/22/news_6129609.html?tag=lastword_pc_headline
Starting with your most recent comments on "The Sims 2", I quote
gamespot.com(link above) : "Jeff Brown, vice president of corporate
communications at EA, in response to the accusations, told GameSpot,
"This is nonsense. We've reviewed 100 percent of the content. There is
no content inappropriate for a teen audience. Players never see a nude
sim. If someone with an extreme amount of expertise and time were to
remove the pixels, they would see that the sims have no genitals. They
appear like Ken and Barbie." "
You have said that by removing the pixels used to blur the sims
"sexual areas", you see tits, penises and all other things, but I'd
like to see hard evidence that this is a fact. Otherwise, you have no
case against EA (electronic arts)...
If genderless dolls (i.e. Ken and Barbie) are the worst things you
find in The Sims 2, and that alone calls for a lawsuit, shouldn't you
also sue Martel and other toy companies for providing small children
and pedophiles with naked bodies?`
(remember that this is NOT, i repeat NOT an attempt to "flame" you,
I'm just asking)
Concerning your lawsuit towards Rockstar Games and GTA: san andreas...
I agree to the fullest that this should never have been in the game in
the first place.
However, seeing that the age for having sex and watching porn to it's
fullest is 18 (16 or 21 in some states if I remember correctly),
should it not be okay to allow the before mentioned "hot coffee"
sequence to at least _be_ in the game? It's not like you actually see
them having sex, which would qualify it as soft porn, something that
is equally present in almost every TV show today.
I just recently read about a 85-year old grandmother who filed a
lawsuit against Rockstar because of this "sex sequence". She had
bought the game to her 14 year old grandson, who isn't allowed to play
the game until about 3 years from now! Isn't this a clear example on
stupidity?
(please don't stop reading just because you think it's stupid that I
brought up this)
At this point, I would like to address something found on a blog (link
above, #3). No, this is not a very "pro-Jack" page, but it raises some
interesting questions.
1. Why do you seem to think that playing games destroy your brain? If
and when I have children, I would not want them sitting in front of a
computer screen all day playing games, but I would never ever enforce
a ban on anything, simply because I would trust my kid enough to make
him or her take own decisions. Several studies have suggested that
playing games raises a level of awareness and give quicker reflexes.
In addition to this, all people know that a vacation is important now
and then. If life is boring, why not enjoy yourself in a fantasy world
for some hours, as long as you know the difference between the world
in which you are playing and the world in which you are living?
2. If violent games such as "Doom", "Halo", "Dead or Alive" and others
train children in how to kill and hurt others, the same could be said
about boxing, martial arts, fencing, hunting (and target practice
shooting) and almost 75% of all sports that exist. Why not go after
them as well?
3. Why do you answer people who are asking you serious-minded
questions or giving friendly advice with a tone such as this: "Dear
idiot: You know, it is moral morons like you that are responsible for
the decline of this civilization. You should be thankful that your
parents didn't play an infanticide game. Go crawl into the hole your
hero left today." (from the before mentioned blog)
It seems to me that what you are doing is like the Bush-provided war
on Iraq. You give out bombastic statements (such as: "I am trying to
protect our freedoms. How so? When the next Columbine happens and the
perpetrators are proven to be copycatters of adult-rated violent
entertainment, then the government, driven by parental concern, really
will contract freedom for all Americans. Safety will trump freedom." -
from stopkill.com) and accuse a lot of people for a lot of things, but
when some of those things are being proven false (such as the blur
issue in The Sims 2), you thread around it like was a huge cauldron of
poison.
I am more than happy about any form of reply, but I hope for an
intellegent discussion concering the matters I've adressed, not just
some comments about me being a retard.
(lastly, I know there might be some spelling errors but seeing that I
do not have English as my mother tounge, I'm hoping you'll survive...)
Yours,
Øyvind Kveine Haugen
I don't know. I'm kinda thinking that all this hate is the wrong way to go! Maybe we should form a gaming organisation...and just start lobbying for more games...and gamer rights! Yeah...we should organise ourselves! No matter what age!!
I sent him this email.
You probably get hundreds of emails from video game fans calling you a moron. And, reading the alleged replies you made to Shaun McCormack at http://keepyourkillingclean.blogspot.com/2005/02/jack-thompson-is-douche-bag.html, and to the person who wrote this article: http://www.aelon.net/2005/07/jack-thompson-straw-man/ Some might say you are. But this is NOT one of those emails. THIS EMAIL IS NOT CALLING YOU A MORON. I will reserve judgement for now. But I would just like to know, why do you see videogames as bad? Is it because they are opposed to the will of God? Is it because they are corrupting today’s youth? Were you affected as a child or at any other stage of your life, by videogames? Please respond, I await your response.
Jake Papas, UK.
I hope I'll get an intelligent response, because I haven't actually said I support games. Yet.
Heh, no chance of getting an intelligent reply from ol' Jackass
this is from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)
"Correspondence
Thompson has gained notoriety with some as an exceptionally caustic and combative individual, to some extent borne out in many examples of interchanges between him and other individuals surfacing in emails posted to the Internet, as well as interviews and media apperances. In his communications, a number of specific traits and tendancies have been observed:
* He has been commonly accused of, and many times proven to use half-truths and misinformation to persuade others to accept his views.
* He frequently utilizes ad hominem attacks and slanderous "low blows" against those who disagree with him, as well as simply insulting his detractors, be they politely-worded or otherwise, with a variety of invectives.
* He frequently will either imply or blatantly insult those that express dissenting opinions as being mentally ill, mentally deficient, or brain-damaged.
* Accusations by him that those he disagrees with suffer from Tourette's syndrome, made without any substantiating proof or even the suggested condition's relevancy to the subject being discussed, are especially common.
* He has ignored individuals who point out factual errors or misstatements made by him and who supply substantiating proof or referenes, or has responded with the above described behaviors while intentionally failing to acknowledge or respond to the individual's mention of his (Thompson's) errors.
* He has provoked several people who have e-mailed him by telling them that they should enter treatment facilities. When they respond to his comments, Thompson has invoked the protection of the Flordia Cyberstalker Law and threatened legal action against them.
* He often sends rude and threatening replies to even the nicest emails."
I too am against this idiot...so much so that I E-mailed him. I informed him that he misspelled the word feel in the 3rd paragraph on stopkill.com or whatever. He has yet to respond or even fix this simple error on his webpage. If I remember correctly he said he had 30 some years in law? I'll just guess he didn't learn spelling. If you wish to contact me my screen name on AIM is noshameinsin135
I sent him a couple of emails, from different addresses, one saying that some of his views are idiotic, and the other asking why his responses are half-assed. No reply as of yet
wow he really is a complete and total fuck-head
Hope you don't mind that I linked your blog to mine, but I felt like spreading the word of this douche bag.
Can someone find the email address for The Honorable Hillary Rodham Clinton and The Honorable Joseph Lieberman? I would recomend dropping them, as well as your local congressman, a quick note on your stance on videogame sex/violence. It might offset the one-offs Jacky is sending.
I have "corresponded" with "Mr." Thompson as well. He suffers from some sort of communication problem, probably tourette syndrome.
FYI, I have TS myself, and though it does make social interaction difficult, raw communication, such as e-mail, is not affected. His problem isn't TS, it's MS - Moron Syndrome.
His mom probably never got him that Atari he wanted for Christmas.
This jackass doesn't have a clue as to how the video game world works. He's basically hopeless.
Me like jack balls
I honestly don't believe why he has not had legal action against him. Look at some of the replies that he has given people, for example, random threats at even the nicest of people, and use of blatant profanity, which could "hypothetically" lead to mental damage, just like how his beliefs that games "hypothetically" turn average people into murdurers and "train them to kill." I cannot believe that he is trying to brainwash people with his bullshit. Just my two cents.
Are these mailexchanges truly authentic? Jeez...
If I had read these mails before I knew that they were written by an attorney, I would have thought they´d been boiled together by some frustrated psycho...
Which, in fact, doesn´t seem far from the truth, but honestly... He should really get anger management or something...! Like Luc said: He probably didn´t get his Atari... Or anything else, for that sake...
I would very much like to see him using arguments like that in the courtroom. Could be a funny experience...
Greetings from Norway
FUCK JACK THOMPSON !
Kiss the instrusdry good bye ?
Remember Jake Thompson, we all hate you .
Hope you fall of a cliff !
He's a fucking moron, and can't answer any of the questions gamers send him because he doesn't have the brain capacity to explain them. I hope he gets shot by some Killer7 or RainbowSix diehard. Teach him a lesson.
I hope you all see that these comments of yours goes backwards in your crusade against him.
but, what I'd mostly like to clarify is... he probably doesn't have the time to read your mail. at 14 years old you have time... therefore every mail you send him, where you try to corner him, is of absolutely no interest to him (nor of any use to him).
You're argument that he is a "jackass" because he doesn't reply might show that you are either not of an age of majority, or that you have yet to develop an abstract way of putting yourself in the skins of others.
Everyone who said that "he should die" or that "I wan't to kick him in the nut" are
1), threats to his wealth
2), uncanny proof that he is right, most of you shows evidence of violent behavior.
3) ignorance that if you were "violent", there is no way that you would no it... such is the nature of madness. Do you think that someone believe he is violent?
Also... it's not helping us at all... as now some of you have sent him death threats.
Thanks
- A Concerned 3D Art Director.
i was a violent sociopath before i started playing games:p
He's a pompous, arrogant ass and that's all there is to it.
The idea that a few million lines of code could drive someone to kill for fun has always seemed absurd to me. Squirt guns are far more dangerous. Without squirt guns we wouldn't be able to shoot anyone. That's where most of use learn to use a gun. in video games you can't even see the character pull the trigger. If you'd only seen a gun in video games then yopu probably wouldn't know how to fire one.
man this is why i hate US, such a dumbass can be such annoying there. i don't understand why people (especially senators) still believe him as it is proven he oftenly lies. Here's in EU no one will listen to him. there should be a law, like 2 years of jail, for people who go to the court for nothing, i'm pretty the number of cases decrease, but who it is US after all.
The gamer's antichrist has arisen, filling those ignorant of it's bliss with slanderous tendrils of darkness that cloud their site of it's beauty...
I abhor Jack Thompson, as well as anyone who feels what he says is just and fair. I hope he tangles himself in his own twisted web of lies, and his idiotic and self-righteous biggotry.
I believe that parents are fully responsible for what their child does, whether the man working at Gamestop is involved or not. Did that guy at Gamestop raise that child? He could have no idea how that child was raised, so choosing what games are suitable for whom is pointless to a certain extent.
Don't get me wrong here, but even the "mature" gta was played at my house today by my younger cousin, who is around 9 years old. later that day, did he get an axe and attempt to murder anyone in the home? No. His parents let him play just about anything he likes, and he almost shows no agression towards anything, but there is some agression in every human, no matter what the government would have you think. I recall seeing one post talking about Hitler, and that was an excellent example. He never played a single videogame due to their non-existence, but maybe he wouldn't have been AS tyrannnical if he had...but probably he'd be just the same, considering he was mad.
As for "Hot Coffee," let me put it to you in my point of view...the sex minigame was only available through hacking or code-altering cheats, and Rockstar's stupid decision to leave the code of the minigame in the game. if you buy a product, it's your property. altering it is your choice once the game is purchased as the user. If the parents don't pay attention to what their kids do,and what they play. GTA shouldn't have put that in their game, but then again, the in-game sex sequence isn't very graphic to be considered above the 17 and up limit, in my opinion.
P.S. Games don't kill people. People do.
-An annoyed 16-year-old.
305-666-4366
lol he is the devil
It's sad to see a person like this bashing a cause so superfluous to crime rates as video games. He needs to prey on something else, like rock and roll or aspartame sweetener -- anything to make sure he has something to bash to make himself feel bigger. He probably has a tiny penis.
http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=jack_thompson
In case anyone cares and has an lj, of course.
I believe Jack Thompson believes all gamers are 12 year old idiots who cannot defend themselves against politicans. I think Jack Thompson wants to be remembered in history as the person who banned video games forever.
So basically, he's a senile old geezer who should have retired several years ago.
*sigh* The man is an idiot, plain and simple. And, for being a lawyer, he sure does have some piss-poor grammar. From what I've seen, he doesn't seem to know where the shift key is and what it does. I'd e-mail him if I thought I'd get an intelligent response. I'd like to give you all a quote:
“The man sueing the fast-food companies for making him fat represents the common qualities of an American -- he's overweight, underinformed, and litigious.” --Lewis Black
It's about the fast food corporations being sued, but I think the same principle applies. I don't know about the overweight part, but Mr. Thompson is certainly underinformed. From what I understand, he gets his information from secondary sources, which often aren't as reliable as experiencing the item in question firsthand. God, what an ass.
It's awesome how lowlife morons like him become key government officials and lawmakers.
No wonder the world is messed up these days.
he needs to come out of the closet and get it over with, then maybe he will stop being such a fuckin hippie. or in the event that he is married he needs to have a beer and take his wifes grip off his balls. hes just a dick that thinks everyone is retarded and doesnt have common sense
"It's awesome how lowlife morons like him become key government officials and lawmakers."
Sure does make you wonder...
No wonder he's got death threats - just reading all his ill-informed, crock of shit excuse of an argument makes my blood boil. His stupidity is enough to turn anyone into a killer. How he lives with his own stupidity is beyond me but sooner he fucks off the face of this planet, the better.
He's gonna have a tough time getting rid of video games.
Stupid fuck..
Oh my God! Jack Thompson makes Joe Lieberman look like a Saint!
Video games are not real you are detached from the action there is a difference between shooting someone in real life and pressing a button on a controler
Video game violence can only affect someone that is already mentaly ill or handicapped.
If Jack thinks video game violence turns people into murderers why hasn't someone shot him yet?
I can't possibly comprehend how this guy can ever win a court case with such a generally messed up logic center of the brain. He has the approximate charisma of a dead ferret.
He lumps the gamer who can comprehend the difference between fantasy and reality with the the .1% (maybe less) of gamers with no sense of reality/fantasy and commit murders to imitate what they see in games.
I personally think that the responsibility lies solely with the parents.
One thing you have to give President Bush is that he thinks that people should just be better parents rather than have federal legislation against the VG industry.
Thompson is afraid of us (not vice-versa) because he knows we are right. He says we're mentally deficient, but truthfully, gamers are usually smarter people. I mean, we have the mental comprehension to play the games in the first place.
He really should read "Everything Bad is Good for You" (can't remember the author). It might make his brain explode from the shock of a third party directly contradicting he opinion of video games being totally bad.
He wants the industry destroyed, but we won't go down easy.
---A mostly angry, opinionated, debate veteran, 14 year old
I am SICK of Jack Thompson.
From what I've gathered, his view of gamers is that we all are stupid, willing to kill on impulse, naive, and insane.
Games don't create killers. Jack Thompson does.
I'm Jack's colon. I get cancer, I kill Jack.
Next thing, he'll be trying to sue the ACS for the commercial and the creators of Fight Club, because it's now een used as a satire against a money-hungry "crusader" who would rather stifle the freedoms and creativities of individuals. My creativity in choosing this nick and opening my statememnt with the following quote may too be endangered.
What exactly are the things he is fighting against? Super Mario for violence against turtle-things? Mortal Kombat for the 500 gallons of blood effects?
Rockstar screwed up, BIGTIME. But what about games like BMX XXX? I still think the M rating is fine with all the GTA games, but perhaps there should be a 21+ rating as well, and just ditch the letters. Any age, 6+, 13+, 15+ 17+ and 21+ should be much more easier for parents to understand. But if parents are not paying attention to what they buy, what good is it all?
What about getting to the root of the problem? Getting help or counseling when the warning signs are present, seeking psychological attention for addictive, violent, or antisocial behavior. I suppose none of this is going to happen because insurance companies do not cover mental illnesses. And they wonder why there are maniacs on the loose... duh.
This is NOT a quick-fix issue. I play my part by making sure if I know or notice someone with an underage child going to buy a game, I let them know it's probably not a good game if it's not age-appropriate. Of course a lot of the games are made a certain way to boost sales, but I say quality over quantity. Why are kid games, excuse the expression, so kid-like? There seems to be a gap betweeen the 6 year old crowd and the teen crowd. Pokemon does NOT count, dammit. You got the pokey and you got the man and the hippin and the hoppin, and these kids today don't know what the JAZZ is all about.
Short answer- this is not going to go away by legislation. It will be driven underground, and perhaps may flourish. The need for a type of punching bag or stress-reliuef exercise is great, and since many people have computers, why not allow these games to be classified as stress-relief aids? Of course, medications should be kept out of the reach of children, as so should these games. Regulating the hell out of game companies are not going to solve the problem, but in fact cause more problems elsewhere, since no one is getting to the greatest issue of all-- lack of parenting skills. No one wants to face it, blame comics, blame games, blame TV, blame movies, blame Pokemon. Like it or not, people have a violent nature within them. If all outlets of the need for expressing or venting violence are taken away, there will be total chaos. Would it be better for me to have a game where I can rellieve stress by giving someone named jack colon cancer instead of doing it fr real? Perhaps the perceptions of reality we all have are just so screwed up that we'd rather play games than go out to meet people, shower, and find jobs. The way thing are today, I can't say I blame them. Game on!
I'm Jack's Colon... I get cancer, I kill jack.
my god always targeting the video gaming industry please give a little credit to our national schools. Any jack tompson is one man, one man against a bilionaire corporation if he tries to as mutch as sue he will probally be jailed for attacking a 14 year old supporter trying to point out that his shoelace is untied. He seems to be a self absorbed money leetching delusional excuse for an evil that seems to destroy everything surround it it reatch its own petty goals. In short he is pathetic and is no real threat to even the smallest of flies.
i'm gonna send an email saying that my friend beat me up when i beat him in...err...halo 2. I'm interested in what he says to potential clients
I was pawnin some n00bs in HALO2 I was teh l337n355 fraggin all of teh n00bs then 1 of th3m found out where I liv3 and t0taly PWND me!
I haven't been the sam3 5ince.
Before I was teh roxorz now I'm teh ultimo suxzohr.
Video game violence has hurt me! OUCH!
i dont think it has a problem on most people....look if you do a searh i bet 95% of killers i the last 5 years have never played a violant video game...i think that some people just snap and kill its not because they got the idea of killing some from GTA or some other Video Game....i mean there are lots of movies that have more bloody scenes in it than in GTA games or any other violent game for that matter
"LEAVE GAMES TO THE GAMERS" MaHan05
I think that it is a concious choice of the parent to buy it for their kids, and that we need to prevent some of the younger audiences from reaching it. But other than that, forget it. These are great games.
Besides, in a sorta contradictory way, I believe its the level of ones maturity, and not age. A 22 year old can be influenced just as much as a 16 year old playing the game. It depends on their maturity. The reason I said the above comment was, you can't measure someones maturity until you know them well.
However... Fuck Jack Thompson!
i have to say, that swearing, cussing, insulting, and name calling really don't do anything to help defeat him. the only way to defeat him is by way of the teachings of Ghandi, to make your enemy look immoral to the world public, or in this case, the U.S. public. try to present your frustrations in a clear and concise manner, and don't resort to saying things like:
"Fuck Jack Thompson, he is teh suxors"
or
"Jack Thompson could go suck on a Radiator and die of antifreeze poisoning for all i care, he is a Stupid Ass hole."
but no, this is not what is needed, what we need is to join together, and fight this unreasonable attack on our own freedom of speech, and that of the Video Game Industry.
Also, the two main reasons this is even going on is
one) Hillary Clinton, and Jack Thompson are trying to get a popular vote with the parents of troubled kids, which i might add, isn't even a popular vote seeing as the amount of children with severe or even minor psychological difficulties were either born that way, or were never given sufficient psychiatric help.
2) Jack Thompson is in it for the money, therefore living up to his chosen name for his campaign, or "crusade". Weren't there the things called The Crusades, which in their span of about 200-300 years alltogether, killed, maimed, pillaged, and raped the men, women, and children of medieval India, and the surrounding lands? Which, if you don't know, was all under the false pretense that God ordered the destruction of the heathen who lived there, when in fact it was only the jealosy of the English and French which drove them to initiate the Crusades. And during the the years and years of virtual raping of that regions culture, resources, and population, the only thing which was gleaned was a) the supposed "heathens" which lived there, and b) a vast treasure in gold, and ancient artifacts.
what i'm trying to say, is that the reason that Jack Thompson and cohorts are engaging in this ridiculous "crusade" is because they either want to take money away from a legitimate industry, for no other reason than personal gain.
In short, all opposers of Jack Thompsons infantile fight against an enemy which only wished to give milions of people worldwide a past time to give them a way to calm down, and create stronger social bonds.
My dad is a lawyer too and he loves Grand Theft Auto! He could kick Jack Thompson's ass!
he's just pissed because he couldn't remember gta's control scheme
Trying to talk about to JT about video game violence, no matter what your view is, or no matter how well thought out and well written it is, is a waste of time. He doesn't care about video game violence, and he certainly doesn't care about what John Smith from middle of nowhere, USA thinks either. It's about him, the media, and poor old granny, whose daughter's husband's cousin's neighbor's innocent son, who was coincidentally in a gang, was tragically killed by someone who has become a trained killer thanks to mario teaches typing, who feels she deserves compensation from the evil corporation that created the heinous game (yes I know that's long winded).
What I find amazing is that he has the speaking skills to sound as though he's making a convincing argument despite all the logical fallacies and gather as much support as he has, yet when presented with an opponent of even marginal intelligence, his debate skills are like those of a two year old. Someone has got to be preparing his speeches or something, because there seems to be a huge IQ gap between when he's speaking in public and when he's responding to emails. What I want to see someone do is to take one of those valid email arguments, grab a thesaurus, and make it as overly complex and intelligent sounding as possible, just so we can hear him respond by calling the person a "poopiehead."
And I'd like people to stop wishing that he would die. Yes, without jackass the world would be a better place, but saying it aloud just gives him more ammunition, plus the last thing we need is for him to be a martyr. What needs to be done is someone needs to get some airtime on national primetime TV who can point out the facts. Let's face it. JT has only gotten as far as he has because
A. people are stupid and
B. he makes sure to only appear for interviews where no one is around to dispute him.
He has no real case, and he knows it. But all the people who can prove him wrong are online and not where the general public will hear them. Problem is, scandals make for better TV than stories about how the world is fine. My recommendation is if he tries to intimidate you with legal action, accept his challenge. Odds are it's just a bluff, but if he does take it to court news may spread about the trial, in which case they will inevitably hear about how much of a douche bag he is, and then his "righteous crusader" act will be exposed for what it really is.
P.S. I apologize if this is too long. I have a tendency to be a little wordy.
the guy blames video games for the down fall of civilization he postes his email adress so evreyone can contact him but when pepol thet dont agree with him write and have alot of vailed quastions all he does is insault you and trethen to sue you oo and jack crime started happaning 100's of years befor video games where created
Us gamers are more powerful than jack thinks. We must come to together to make a real life "clan" with the intent of making our voices heard. We however must do this in a peaceful way as not to make his point true.
LOL, This whole thing just makes me laugh.
I am curious as to what game Jack played to make him have the HATE that he demon-strates (I seperated that since he acts like a DEMON).
Seems to me from reading all I have read that the gamers are the ones trying to get a logical reply and Jack is the one that has the verbal tirades.
In my honest opinion I don't think Jack Thomson believes what he's saying. I think that he couldn't give a damn about who's lives he ruins, how much of society he destroys, but how much money he can make off the innocent. He knows that he can get ignorant people to follow and support him because the games he's using as examples have violence. (How risque!) Jack Thomson is indeed a douchebag, and it's people like him that are pushing society back to the dark ages.
ok here goes..... I HATE THE SIMS !!! i do, i really do,if my wife wasn't a fan i wouldn't know anything about it,and i wouldn't play it if you paid me..... but to suggest that the game in any way is indecent is laughable, quite clearly mr Thompson is one of these people who make a lot of noise while saying very little and even that is ill informed. There are many good causes in the world which do not get enough attention...maybe mr Thompson could look around a bit.......
I feel the need to ask though with what mail order this man came by his law dagree? I would also love to know with whom he had to sleep with to pass his bar exam! No man smart enough to actually EARN his dagree and pass the bar on his OWN could be so mentAly handicaped. Thoes fo you familer with "The Wizard of Oz" must see the simularties of the man say "If I only had a brain" he obvlusly is sourly lacking in that department. He is misinformed and on a crusade for fame. He wants his name in print and money in his bank account. He wants to anger as many people as he can. Most likely that is the only way this "Gentalman" can get orhold an erection. sohul any one else care to disagree or agree with me i woul Love to hear form them. night-cat@sbcglobal.net please incled a message and my name in the subject line. ALSO I would like to give apology to any mentaly handicaped person(s) affented by my earler statement
Wait I have it. I know why the ass never answered you. He was to busy getting his ass kicked on Halo 2 to respond. His moral beating must have screwed up what "Intelligence" was left. If he even had any after he got out of "law" school.*cough* technical college *cough*. Boy doesn't it hurt your pride as a "man" to get beat by a teen.
I think that gamers around the world should unite to tickle Jack Thompson. I wonder what he'd say to that?
TICKLE FTW!
"If we were all so bloodthirsty and violent he would be dead thirty times over. And then someone would blow up his casket."
That would be a fitting end.
"I knew him for 50 years and-*KABLAM!!!*"
I think video gamers all over the world would be laughing for days. This man is a waste of air and food.
Perhaps my biggest problem with him, however, is that no courts will simply recognize the fact that his lawsuits are frivolous and throw them out.
The real problem with this issue is not just Jack himself. Obviously those of us that have tried to contact him with honest questions and well-constructed emails (myself and a close personal friend, as well) have likewise been met with "message-board" level retorts. The problem comes in the fact that likely an overwhelming percentage of the gamer population has emailed him single-sentence threats. Unfortunately, this has likely caused him to more or less delete any response tailored to the issue of gaming.
The true issue here is the First Amendment, and the freedoms it protects. Jack is trying to start a crusade on a single medium of entertainment based on a single piece of subjective material that isn't even available in the shelf release of the game (I speak of course about the now-infamous "Hot Coffee" mod for GTA:SA), as well as violence in current games in general.
Here's the problem, though. If he succeeds - Heaven forbid! - what's to stop his argument from spreading to other forms of media? In fact, that's another argument altogether. Why are games the most evil of all electronic media? Why not target something else that's blatant in crudity in content? Like MTV, or the pornographic industry? Why not censor the history textbooks because of their mention of such important events such as war, political scandals, and revolutions?
This is a stupid issue from an even stupider man, who started this crusade over content in games that someone had to HACK to find! All I can say is kudos to him for the free Rockstar publicity. They'll soon have GTA: Florida Suburban Noise out on shelves in Fall of 2006.
Thank you and good night.
Hello okay I’m not only a huge video gamer but I’m a web comic fan as well and so far I've seen no reason for this Jack Thompson to be in any sort of power. He disrespects his peers and is completely ignorant when it comes to his own beliefs. Personally I believe if you want to trump violence in youth how about removing violent sports like football of hockey because I've seen more people get killed from sports then I have from any video game.
OMG JACK THOMPSON IS A RIGHT WING NUT JOB AND A FAG.
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Yeah - read the same stuff about that hot coffee thingie. Wrote him a 2 hour email. Started nice, Afterwarts... not so anymore although I kept it civil. Anyway, got a first class insult.
Question: To follow querent affairs, why dont we start a donation of 10.000 dollar to anyone who creates a game where gamers can kill this 'lawyer'? Should be intresting...
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well, i got a call from his proctologist the other day, he says he found jacks head
Feel like giving Jack a piece of your mind?
Go bug the nose-bugger-digger.
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jack thompson is an idiot he thinks hes going to win but hes not! and we should send this to the judge handling these situations so they can see what an ass he really is! hes totally in it for the money!
Wow, I seriously think that Jack is more capable of snapping once and for all and going postal in some unfortunate gamers office than any other person in the world! (including any gamers) His fanatical views, quite frankly, Scare the hell out of me, and I am glad I live no where near him!
I have sent Mr. Thompson a very civilized E-mail explaining to him my position. We will see his maturity level compared to a "Gamer" when he responds to it.
(my e-mail)
Dear Mr. Jack Thompson,
First of all let me say that I admire your dedication to your cause. Now let me add my position. I am the Mother of two wonderful children, Keely who is six years old and Michael who is three. My daughter Keely is the top level reader in her entire elementary school, and has a tested I.Q. of 165. Einstein's IQ was between 160 and 200, He was never formally tested. My daughter has been labeled a child prodigy, and even tutors fifth graders in her school.
I tell you this because I recently viewed an email sent by you, or whomever replies to your e-mails, stating (and I quote) "You should be thankful that your parents didn't play an infanticide game.". You see, I am a "gamer" by your terms. While my kids are at school I enjoy sitting down on my computer and relaxing while I play, say, "The Sims 2", or "World of Warcraft". My daughter who is also the smartest child in her school, also enjoys sitting down and helping me set up my homes in my sims game, or helping me create a new sim. I have seen the "Sims" without the nude patch, tho I keep it on myself (I have no need to take it off). There is nothing my daughter would see there that she cannot see on her Barbie dolls in her bedroom. And I might add that the clothes that come with the game are not even as revealing as most of the Barbie clothes out there.
In conclusion, I feel yet there can be a problem with a "gamer" if they have some kind of mental problems, or imbalance before they play a game. I also feel that even tho I don't like violence in a game, and don't own any games like that, the game cannot be blamed for an individuals actions. A person could just as easily watch "need for speed" or any other such movie and do the same thing. So while I feel an apology is suitable for the comment I read, I don't feel I'll be getting one since you don't seem to be on the maturity level to do such a thing when you have offended somone. Thank you very much for you time.
Sincerly,
An Offended Mother
Nice mail, I sent one out a few weeks ago asking for an interview for my term paper. I suppose a researcher is not good enough for Jacky, he didn't even reply. No automated "you are an idiot" or "get help" message was sent. I stated plainly that I disagreed but also stated that the tone of the paper was neutral so he would not be edited.
Meh, I'm getting bored with him, no new material from our favourite wipping boy.
It's funny how he's a right-wing lawyer, but he's working with only left-wing Senators. Also funny is that Bush has spoken out against his work by stating that it is the responsibility of the parents to monitor what their children play. Ok, I'm referring to current President Bush, the one that everyone loves to hate, and he says something that we agree with.
I have sent Jack an email, no doubt will it be given the same answer as all of you, but I have also stated that the defamation of character charge he had against Penny Arcade can't even hold a feather, as I had learned that courts have ruled that those who parody public figures can do so without penalty. Hm, wonder what he'll say, "You're an idiot."? or "I'll sue you!"
Lol, sounds to me like he's in the money and you guys are pissed.
No I don't side with him, yes he is an ass, and no games are not the reason some guy shot 3 cops.
But the system is such that he can take advantage, earn a shitload of money and theres nothing you can do about it...
So yea hes an ass, but hes just the product of an ass and a stupid system. Seeing the opportunity for easy money taken from big industries, how many of you would turn it down on moral grounds?
The real mistake is by the gimps running the courts who allow people like Mr. Thompson to make stupid claims and be taken seriously.
As for taking down the gaming industry, you really think he cares about that? I'm sure he makes some bold claims, but I assure he's got no 'higher goal' that he believes in, but he has to show faith in his cause, otherwise he won't be taken seriously in court and won't earn money.
Lesson learnt kids, at the source of all decisions and actions is money. money makes the world go round, and don't doubt it.
Hey, just wanted to point out the exchange between Jack and the extremely well read and well spoken 14 year old. Great job!
That aside, what I wanted to say was be thankful it's Jack Thompson up there making a fool of himself and not someone who's influencial, competent, and fully capable of making a legitimate case.
Game on! :)
~J.R.
Anyone know the website that Jack Thompson has? I'd like to see the crap he has on his anti-gaming site just so I can hate him more.
It's amazing how each time Jack Thompson is able to swallow the crap that comes out of his mouth. He brushes off any sincere question or comment and chooses to instead insult and threaten to sue us. It's the kind of reckless action and behavior of a pathetic man who is still trying to blindly lead a foolish and unnecessary crusade.
He's probably offended by watching gamers play Pacman eating those ghosts for heaven's sake.
He's a pesky fly in everyone's ear. Thankfully, he's constantly being swatted down by everyone who knows an idiot when they see one.
A dog with a big bark and no bite.
Jack Thompson should just roll over and play dead like a good dog. Someone needs to find the rolled-up newspaper and teach that old dog a few new tricks...;-)
politions and lawyars such as jack thompson should be focusing thier time on more impotant issues than than helping jackass thompson go on a blind and foolish crusade to take down an industry that has done nothing wrong and deserves no hatred.
- an anoyed 13 year old
If I end up in a courtroom on trial for a death penalty crime, I'd sooner take my chances with the gas chamber, lethal injection, or the chair than have Jack-off Thompson represent me.
i found this in the faqs section at www.americasarmy.com:
Q: At one stage of the game, players are instructed on the fundamentals of basic rifle marksmanship. Does this teach young adults how to shoot a weapon?
A: …there is no way that manipulating a keyboard and mouse, as players do in the Army's game, can provide vital cues on key elements of marksmanship…
We included the rifle range because that is a basic and obvious part of military training; something a new recruit will immediately become familiar with. While the game introduces players to the look and procedures of marksmanship training, clicking a mouse is absolutely not applicable to actual marksmanship training.
When we qualify Soldiers as marksmen we send them to a rifle range. We put a rifle in their hands, not a keyboard and mouse. There are a lot of physical mechanisms entailed in mastering a firearm that cannot be replicated in a game. Indeed, there is no way that manipulating a keyboard and mouse, as players do in the Army's game, can provide vital cues on key elements of marksmanship such as trigger pressure, weapon cant and body position. In the Army, under the guidance of expert coaches, our Soldiers first learn how to align their sights. They then fire many rounds to become accustomed to the recoil of a rifle and to learn how to get a good sight picture.
Even today, in an age when computer games are ubiquitous, teaching rifle marksmanship is a major hurdle in basic training and a major element of Army refresher training for Soldiers in the force. If games taught Soldiers to become marksmen, Army training would be greatly simplified. However, games don't teach our Soldiers how to shoot so we train them with real weapons and ammo on real rifle ranges.
Games may simulate the real world but they do not recreate it. No one would believe that a child could master a racecar by playing a racing game. Likewise, clicking a mouse, as a player does in the Army game, will never teach a person how to shoot.
Hmmm...people Jack is just a hard working man ok? so you know what he needs to lower his paranoia with video games...yup you guessed it he needs the world famous "Good Cup of Shut the F*ck up" *-*
Jack is an asshole thats A-S-S-H-O-L-E
Jack,got it memorized?
Now now Pepole lets please understand that mr Jack-offi mean jack-ass i meant jack-asshole I MEAN jack Thompson has some issues he does not have any sense of intelligence whatsoever so he sucks ok? yes he likes to SUCK IT a lot ok? well pepole gotta go faaaaaaaaaack wife so cya
Dear Mr.Jack Thompson(if you even read it)
Ahem...i have played tons of M rated games and with all due respect i am not a psychotic person that purchases weapons to shoot people nor i take any other item considered a weapon out on the streets to kill or harm any random person i see,now Mr.Thompson me and probably all of America would be glad if you would understand that the problem is not video games,its the parents that allow 7 year olds to play violent games,now i am not saying that children cannot play video games all im saying is that they can play them just that the parents need to learn how to use the ESRB rating system a good example,i have a cousin that is 10 years old,he has played Kingdom Hearts 2 and i dont see him trying to slice buildings with a key in fact he enjoyed the game and he is smart enough to realize that the things in video games such as extremely long jumps are impossible to do in real life so i would understand if you would take your excesive wrath to video games and aimed it at the irresponsible parrents that dont go by the ESRB rules and then buy games like GTA to theyre 6 and 10 year old kids maybe you need to enforce more the ESRB system on parents than blaming video games for things that they dont do,people kill and steal every day and its not cause of video games its cause of the enviorment they grew up in or other reasons so good day Mr.Thompson and maybe you should think about what ive said
i would laugh if someone from rockstar games assassinated him, hes just a total ass that wants ridiculous amounts of money, for things that are the parents fault, not the childs or the companies because the parents are the ones who take care of the kids, and if they dont have parents, that may be the reason that they killed someone in the first place.
The only way to get genitals for The Sims 1 and 2 would be to create it yourself or to get the skin from a source with whom Maxis or EA is assosiated with. Hey, you can make or get anything for any computer game, so sue every single game on Earth! And I found out, in my PS2 Sims 1 game, about having no genitals. Make a female sim relax in a lovebed. With the heart, you know. Now put a chair or something on the side. When your sim wants to get out, she'll sit up and shrug. The screen is left behind her, leaving the chest exposed. You can't see any tits.
I'm with the gamer league idea, also. I'd say Game Defense League of America, and of India, and the United Kingdom, and Mexico, even maybe Antartica, etc.
I forgot to mention free membership!
I just read the post relating to the ways of ghandi, and I was thinking that if he did all that he did in his way, think about what the thousands of gamers can do!
You know what, maybe not Game Defense League, perhaps Game Defense Clan. Just kidding :-). It doesn't sound good.
And you know what? I'll just make that league website on freewebs.
As a video game designer myself, and one who specializes in both roleplaying and adult games, I find Jack's claims hilarious. I also welcome his attacks. I invite his legal threats, I'd like to see what he can really do. The software I write tends to be violent and/or highly sexual in nature. So Jack, what are you going to do about it? Oh that's right...absolutely NOTHING. You have no grounds, you have no research, nothing except media fluff and your own gold-digging interests. And if you wouldn't stand a chance against a little guy like me, what makes you think you stand a chance against huge corporations like Take Two and Sony? But hey...go right ahead, bring your propaganda to the table, bring your absurd claims into the courtrooms...history has shown that you are dead wrong, and you'll be defeated every time. Hell, maybe some of us video game developers will actually file a lawsuit against YOU for libel...we're well within our legal rights to do so.
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My brother and I have played quite a few video games... would u like us to kill him. Fuckin Douche bag.lol
I love it how he makes uninformed personal attacks on people who intelligently ask him legitimate questions by saying their frontal lobes or their memory regions of their brains are damaged - and he STILL fails to answer a single question accurately. Perfect stereotypical lawyer asshole image he puts out there. It's the violent, depraved lunatics that damage the image of the gamer, and it's that retardass Jack Thompson that damages the images of actual good lawyers everywhere.
wow. this is sick. THIS folks is what is trying to destroy gaming? at first i thought this guy would be someone who was somewhat smart but got the wrong idea and just thought video games were wrong.. nope. were dealing with a fucking 6 year old who can type
-.- dear god.
It's all for the money and Jack's playing the numbers: Most people in non-impovrished countries throughout the world play video games.
I lol'd at the fact that the description said, "If you know of someone who has been harmed from video games," and he replied, "If you are harmed." Looks like he can't read.
he is just greedy and wants to topple gaming industries to collect money for himself. He should go to hell where he belongs.
I hope he gets raped. What a fucking moron.
I have also emailed Jack Thompson. Here is what he responded to my emails:
http://lightdude.blogspot.com/2007/10/update-to-jack-thompson-email.html
Heh, im not worried at all.
Listen, Ill admit, im not smart, but I think even a RETARD could tell this.
He aint gonna get any votes for anything.
Ok, sure, he might get a few votes, like one of you said. The neighbors freinds kid might have gotten killed, concidently when he was in a gang. But few peopple are dumb enough to think immeidiantly
"It must have been a videogame"
Take that, plus the number of times any violence like that ever occurs, plus the fact most americans love there video games, well, you do the math. There might be, in my opinion, 5 percent of peopple that would vote for him for any subject. This guys also rude and a moron, and as soon as someone lets something dumb or angry out, no ones gonna go with him. Heck, if george washington had called america stupid or something, even just once, do you think they woulda voted him for his 2nd, even first time as president? This guys screwed himself by being rude. I also think, like another persone posted, that someone with a higher IQ might be posting his speeches. If he is, this guys just making really big fancy words, and translating it from retard to smart. I have no doubt in my mind thats the case. Bet you 20 bucks btw that he owns and enjoys all the games he wants to ban.
As this article is titled, Jack Thompson is a duchbag.
Give the guy a fucking break lol... You have the freedom to voice and stand by your opinion as does he.... I can't believe how many fucking people whine on and on about "Jack Thompson this..." and "Jack Thompson that...."
Just look at it with fucking logic for a moment, he is a man, one man that is all, he faces a multi billion pound industry which grows each day and feeds of "attention" be it negative or positive... And he also faces the riches twat in the world (Bill Gates) He cannot win....
So, just let him be....
(I know this is an old thread but wished to put this on.)
one of these days he's going to get himself killed, hopefuly violently
There's Probaly Not A Single Person In The World That Doesn't Dispise jack thompson
durrr i'm a idoit
Hmm, can anyone provide me with the current e-mail address of Tommy boy? I'd like to give him a piece of my mind.
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I emailed this idiot with a seven page letter telling him exactly what he got wrong in all his news interviews, emails, and written letters about videogames. I also asked him a couple of questions and told him that he was an idiot. The guy wrote back a one paragraph letter stating that I didn't consider the feelings of the victim's families and that there was fraud in the ESRB. So rather than acknowledging his mistakes he blindly posts some crap. I swear when he gets proven wrong he threatens to have you arrested or sued for violating some federal law. He is a sore loser, and to anyone who is thinking of emailing him. Don't bother, he is so ingnorant and such an asshole that you'll just be wasting your time.
I honestly hope Jack Thompson lives the rest of his life in a room with padded walls and his favorite jacket latches his sleeves to his back.
Jack Thompson can go skrew himself! he thinks he an just walk in and try to take dwon the gamign industry? with the countless number of Gamers worldwide.. id like to see him try! i want to see him,crash, burn, and DIE! Video Games are a part of our rights and our freedoms! hell, its even part of Democracy, Jack Thompson is a Selfrightous, ignorant, Democracy hating douchbag!
Jack Thompson, do Hundreds of millions, hell, maybe even a few billion people a favor and DIE!
Thank you for posting this. It was pretty entertaining. There are more outrageous JT quotes on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jack_Thompson_(attorney)
Some books that were looked down on are now held high above others. Why? Because jerks like Jack Thompson(a.k.a. asshole, idiot, bitch, cunt, loser, ignorant, jerk, mother fucker, pussy, moron, cock sucker, homophobic freak, bunny killer, pervert...the list goes on and on) realized they were wrong and that the books though disliked by some were amazing in themselves. Sadly Jack has got his head so far up his moronic ass that he cant understand that he is an idiot and should either die or shut the fuck up and leave people alone because no one asked him what the hell he thought of video games in the first place and all he is doing is making people hate him.
I just felt like ranting ^_^
Hmmm - Jack Thompson's cases would be mostly destroyed if someone showed him the statistics of purchased violent video games and the amount of crimes where the perpetrator played any form of video game EVER.
I take solace in the fact he is older than me, therefore will die long before me. If i ever see Jack in the street I may just kill him. Slowly.
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I think that Jack Thompson is inclined to respond ignorantly to a letter or email from a gamer because he has probably experienced a lot of hostility over the years. Of course that doesn't justify the incredibly ignorant and rude comments that he made in the email responses shows on this page, especially since it is obvious that he didn't read all of what Shaun wrote.
Guys, I know this is no longer the issue of the moment, and he has gotten his just desserts by being disbarred, but wishing for Jack Thompson's death is just giving grist to his mill, don't you see that? I hope you people who just kept cussing without thinking have matured past that point, just like the windbag has lost all relevance he ever held.
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